September 2025
Scott Billman, Senior Vice President, Global Engineering, Technology, and Facilities at Solventum and Immediate Past Chair of the ISPE International Board of Directors, joins the podcast to share more about the upcoming ISPE Annual Meeting & Expo. Explore the featured topics, trends, and pharmaceutical innovations, as well as opportunities for networking and career advancement that you can expect at the event.
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Welcome to the ISPE podcast, Shaping the Future of Pharma,2
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where ISPE supports you on your journey,3
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fueling innovation, sharing insights, thought leadership,4
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and empowering a global community5
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to reimagine what's possible.6
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Hello, and welcome to the ISPE podcast,7
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Shaping the Future of Pharma.8
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I'm Bob Chew, your host,9
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and today we have another episode
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where we'll be sharing the latest insights
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and thought leadership on manufacturing,12
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technology, supply chains, and regulatory trends13
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impacting the pharmaceutical industry.14
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You will hear directly from the innovators,15
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experts, and professionals driving progress16
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and shaping the future.17
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Thank you again for joining us,18
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and now let's dive into this episode.19
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Our topic today is what you can look forward to20
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at the upcoming ISPE
2025 Annual Meeting and Expo.21
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To share more about this topic,22
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I would like to welcome Scott Billman,23
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Senior Vice President, Global Engineering,24
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Technology and Facilities with Solventum,25
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and immediate past chair26
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of the ISPE International Board of Directors.27
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Scott, welcome to the podcast.28
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We're glad to have you with us.29
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Thanks, Bob.30
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Thanks for having me on the podcast.31
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Glad I could participate.32
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So, how long have you been attending ISPE Annual Meetings,33
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and what keeps you coming back year after year?34
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So, I've probably been coming to Annual Meetings35
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mostly for the last 10 to
15 years.36
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Prior to that, I'd been an ISPE member37
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for almost
30 years now,38
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but spent the first half of that39
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more so at the local chapter and affiliate level,40
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very involved at that level with ISPE.41
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And then as my career advanced,42
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had an opportunity to go to an annual meeting43
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and realized just what a great global collection44
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of experts and topics it was there.45
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And so, after going to the first one,46
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couldn't wait to go to the next one.47
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And so, over the years,48
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it's just been great to continue to go back49
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and see what's going on in industry.50
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I know, it's hard for me.51
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Once I get there, it's an immediate connection52
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with this person and that person.53
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You're walking, and you can't stop talking54
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because you keep meeting people that you know55
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and catching up, and you learn so much56
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just from those little conversations.57
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Yeah, absolutely, and whether you've been to many meetings58
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like you and I have been, or you're new to ISPE,59
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you know, that overall sense of community is there.60
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We're all there for the same topics, for the same purpose.61
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And so, I do encourage newer members62
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or folks that maybe haven't gone to an annual meeting, go,63
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because it's such a great sense of community.64
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You're going to find someone to talk about a new trend,65
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a new topic, or a problem that you're having,66
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and it's a great forum to do that.67
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Everyone's there for that purpose,68
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and so it's easy to make those connections69
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and strike up those conversations.70
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And hopefully this conversation will give people71
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the justification to their boss to attend this.72
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That's right.73
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So, with that in mind,74
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what is special about this year's annual meeting?75
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Why should someone who's maybe casually involved76
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in an ISPE chapter consider going to the annual meeting?77
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As I just said, I believe that one of the benefits78
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of the annual meeting is that it brings a group of people79
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that are looking across the industry together,80
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and whether you're in a region or a segment of the industry,81
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and you're just trying to solve one problem,82
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coming to the annual meeting, again,83
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opens you up to those global experts,84
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to the people that are probably experiencing85
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the same challenges you are,86
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dealing with the same sorts of issues.87
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And so coming there is just a way to make those connections.88
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It's a way to check in on what other companies are doing,89
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how they're solving the same problems,90
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and it's a way to connect and build your network.91
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Well, that's great.92
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Let me ask you this.93
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You have special insight into this year's programming.94
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What excites you about this particularly relevant,95
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that's particularly relevant in advancing today's96
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pharma manufacturing and associated challenges?97
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Yeah, so not only am I involved98
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with the ISPE Board of Directors,99
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but I'm also part of our FOIA Awards,
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right, the Facility of the Year Awards,
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and seeing the trends that are coming through through FOIA.102
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And so a couple of areas.103
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One, the FOIA program has really grown104
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the past couple of years.105
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The last several years, the big gala event106
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on Sunday evening has been great to showcase107
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all the great things that are going on in industry108
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that our folks are working on.109
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And through that, we have a couple of tracks
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that are highlighting areas that I'm starting to see
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a common theme in those FOIA applications112
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in all the new capital, big capital projects.113
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Two major topics.114
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One, sustainability, and the other, digitalization.115
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You know, every major company has targets116
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for greenhouse gas emission reductions.117
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We're all working towards a sustainable future.118
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We're here to improve lives, right,119
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and not only through the healthcare area,120
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but also through protecting the earth.121
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And it is interesting to see the different ways122
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that companies have come up with solutions123
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to work towards that sustainability challenge.124
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So I'm really excited to see that,125
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to see what companies are doing, what they're planning,126
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and then hopefully people that attend127
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can get some good ideas seeing what others are doing128
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and think about how they can implement129
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those sustainable measures in their companies as well.130
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And then the pharma
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Everyone wants to use the term AI, right?132
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We've been focused on digitalization133
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and pharma
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and everyone is amped up on AI, but this all connects.135
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And again, to see all of the efforts that are out there,136
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not only on new AI technologies,137
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but the advancement of the traditional technologies138
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of data acquisition, machine learning, digital twins.139
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More and more companies are providing examples140
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of their journey and how they've implemented that.141
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And that's a big part of our future142
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is going to be in that digital space.143
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And so really excited to see some of the examples144
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and topics in that area.145
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And there's also, I think, a virtual option146
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for those who cannot attend in person.147
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What's that all about?148
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There is, yeah, coming out of COVID,149
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trying to make sure that these sessions150
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are more available to people.151
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There is, if you can't get there in person, right,152
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everyone's very busy, as you had said,153
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it's hard to get away from work154
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and justify that with your manager.155
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There is a virtual option where attendees156
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will get access to a subset of the sessions.157
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We can't simulcast everything,158
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but there's some really key topics159
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that are part of that virtual option.160
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And yeah, that's a great way for folks161
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to be engaged even when you can't travel162
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and get to Charlotte.163
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So you recently completed a number of years164
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on the ISPE board,165
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and you're currently the immediate past chair.166
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Right.167
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With respect to the ISPE annual meeting,168
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what are the similarities and differences169
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you've experienced over the years?170
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Obviously that virtual option that you just mentioned171
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is one of the differences that has been well received here172
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over the past couple of years.173
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But over the last 10 to
15 years,174
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you know, I started to think back 10,
15 years ago175
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when I first started attending,176
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I feel like we have a broader range of topics.177
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I think we've advanced our membership178
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and our volunteer base,179
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our guidance documents to go beyond180
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that core process equipment, facilities,181
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capital project management, right?182
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These are still core things.183
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We still have tracks on those and topics on those.184
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But you think over the past couple of years,185
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what have we added?186
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We've added topics in the regulatory space.187
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We've gotten much more engagement with regulators188
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on panel discussions and talking about the trends189
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and the harmonization efforts that they're looking to do,190
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quality control topics.191
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So I think we're really getting a larger view192
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of the end-to-end, everything that's required193
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in a supply chain organization194
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to deliver therapies to the end patient.195
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And with that, I also continue to see more focus196
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on the end patient,197
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whether it's the FOIA award winners getting up there198
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and telling a patient's story199
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and why their project mattered,200
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or at some of our keynotes, right?201
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Bringing in patients, talking about their journey202
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and some of the therapies that folks in the room203
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are working on and delivering.204
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And so moving forward, we're definitely gonna see205
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more and more of a focus on that end patient206
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because that, at the end of the day,207
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is why we all do what we do, right?208
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Is to improve healthcare and provide positive outcomes209
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for patients in need.210
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I know, listening to those patient stories211
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and then you think about the challenges212
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starting up a plant to bring such a new therapy213
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and you say, you know, we can overcome these challenges.214
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We need to overcome those challenges.215
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Yeah, and it's a great motivation, isn't it?216
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It is, it is.217
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So let's shift gears for a second218
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and talk about maybe the benefits from attending.219
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I'll go through a few topics.220
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Technical content, anything you wanna highlight this year221
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or general statement?222
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Yeah, I think a foundation of ISPE223
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is that technical excellence, right?224
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That technical content through best practice guides,225
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through all of our guides and documents226
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and the speakers we bring.227
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We have a high level of technical talent228
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that's dedicated to ISPE229
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and that's shown in all of the sessions we have.230
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And so, you know, I think the technical content231
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is always going to be there.232
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We have some new documents and guidance233
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that was issued this year in the GAMP space,234
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in sustainability and those technical experts235
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are gonna be at this conference for folks to engage with.236
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So I think that's always been a core of the annual meeting.237
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You're gonna get a lot of good technical content238
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and the SMEs there that developed that content.239
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You know, for me, hearing a real life case study240
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and then when you come upon a situation241
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with a different company and they're a little skeptical242
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that, well, can we really do this?243
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And you can say, hey, let me connect you244
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with the people who actually did this at some other place.245
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It's pretty impactful.246
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Yeah, you know, I'm an engineer my whole career.247
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I love the case.248
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The real world case studies are great, right?249
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It makes it tangible for everyone.250
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You know, how did someone take something251
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that was in a best practice guide252
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and actually implement it and show that?253
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I think that is very powerful for folks.254
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Now, what about somebody who's earlier in their career255
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and is trying to make connections to advance their career?256
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Is there gonna be a career fair or anything like that257
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at this annual meeting?258
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Not a dedicated career fair,259
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but there are areas for folks to connect.260
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In the Exhibitor Hall,261
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there's different opportunities there262
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for that networking.263
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We try to make sure that all of our meetings,264
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we create that space because networking265
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is a huge part of what we do, right?266
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Making those connections to folks267
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and being able to build your own network.268
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And so within the Exhibitor Hall,269
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there'll be various areas and opportunities270
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for folks to make connections.271
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And, you know, I just encourage the folks272
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that are maybe newer in their career273
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to just walk up and ask someone a question, right?274
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And I often get people coming to me, right?275
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I walk around with a special little gold badge276
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that says I'm on the board, right?277
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And I do have one of those as well278
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for being a past board member and chair.279
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So, you know, folks come up and they'll ask you questions280
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because you're wearing that ISP tag.281
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And that's why we wear it, right?282
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We want people to come up to us and ask us questions283
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and we can help make those connections for them.284
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Yeah, I think I found a mentor,285
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or actually I found someone who wanted to be a mentor.286
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And for the next several years,287
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I would do a face-to-face with that person,288
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a mentoring encounter, so to speak,289
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at the ISPE annual meeting.290
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So there's so many ways that you can use this event291
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to help yourself professionally and personally.292
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Yeah, that's great.293
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Now, what about solutions to problems?294
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Can you think of some special problems295
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you've had over the years that maybe at the annual meeting296
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you got a clue on how to solve?297
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Yeah, there's a couple of topics.298
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You know, one several years ago was a good presentation299
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on how to create a multi-use type facility, right?300
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I think coming out of the large expansion301
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of folks building ATMP facilities302
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and then trying to figure out how can you use that303
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in conjunction with another space, right?304
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Because these spaces are very expensive to build.305
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There's a great presentation, again,306
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and a deep technical expert up there on stage307
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talking about the analysis and how they can help companies308
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justify multi-use facilities to regulatory authorities.309
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And so that was great.310
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And we actually took that back to my company311
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and used that methodology.312
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And that company that was presenting helped us with that.313
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And it was great.314
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It was something that we had been talking about internally.315
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I went to an ISP meeting,316
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found that someone else was already talking317
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about the same topic318
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because they were having the same challenge,319
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and then I could directly bring it back320
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and use it at my company.321
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Yeah, and new technologies.322
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I remember recently hearing about a new way323
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to assess VHP sterilization efficacy much faster.324
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So when you're doing cycle development,325
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it really helps you get that done.326
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And those are just examples of,327
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I think, solutions to problems.328
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They may not be industry standard today,329
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but they may be industry standard tomorrow.330
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Right, yeah.331
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Anything you want to say about professional332
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and personal relationships?333
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I mean, we've talked about relationships.334
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We've talked about networking.335
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But I know for me, it's super energizing.336
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Up and down the spectrum of people,337
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service providers, etc.338
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The people you connect to and what you get from that.339
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Yeah, like your previous example, right?340
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You met someone in a meeting341
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and developed a mentoring relationship342
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and that's what I've found by going to these meetings343
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year after year, you start to see the same people,344
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maybe attending the same topics you are.345
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You start having those conversations346
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and then every year at annual meeting,347
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you're having that conversation.348
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But for me, especially being on the board of directors,349
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and I know a lot of our active, engaged volunteers350
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that are on COPs and guidance documents351
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and other committees,352
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you start to build real personal relationships as well353
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that go beyond just work topics.354
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And so that's been great to have that.355
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The personal relationships,356
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friendships that you're going to have357
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well beyond going to ISV meetings,358
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as well as getting really comfortable359
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with subject matter experts360
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that you can just send them a text or an email361
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and ask them a question, right?362
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You don't have to wait to be to a meeting.363
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You don't have to have a formal connection, right?364
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You've built that personal connection with them,365
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but you feel comfortable just picking up the phone366
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and call them at any time and asking them their opinion.367
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And that's perhaps one argument for the in-person version368
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versus the virtual version.369
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Sure.370
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And then of course, there's all the social events.371
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In the evenings, there's all the parties372
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that various vendors throw373
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and they're pretty big deals these days.374
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There's the
5K charity run.375
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Right.376
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What else is there?377
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Yeah, I mean, there's dedicated sessions378
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for women in pharma.379
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There's a special reception for them.380
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We have the hackathon with our students381
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and our emerging leaders382
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that always happens over the weekend.383
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And then we typically have an event with them384
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to engage with those emerging leaders.385
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We have the travel grant program through the foundation386
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where we're bringing students387
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and we create forums for professionals388
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to engage with these students389
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and start to build their network.390
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All these things are on top of the sessions391
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and the networking hall,392
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all geared towards building those connections,393
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building your network,394
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getting together with people395
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that have the same objectives that you do.396
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Yeah, and back to your earlier point,397
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this is some of the things398
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that have really expanded over the last 10 to
15 years.399
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There are so many different things400
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starting on Sunday afternoon,401
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going all the way through the week,402
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like you said, on the evenings,403
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right after the sessions end.404
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There's so much going on to connect people.405
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It's pretty amazing.406
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So annual meeting aside,407
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what do you feel are the major needs of our industry?408
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And how does ISPE plan to meet those needs409
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now and in the future?410
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I believe with our digital journey,411
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we're going to continue to need to focus412
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on our workforce of the future,413
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which is why the Emerging Leaders Program,414
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all of the student engagement activities we do415
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are so important.416
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We have to get folks early on in their career417
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to realize what a great segment or industry418
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this is to be in, right?419
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To our earlier point, health care,420
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serving the patient,421
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it's such a great motivator.422
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When I first graduated college,423
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I didn't know much about the pharmaceutical industry.424
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It wasn't until I got into ISPE425
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that I truly saw the power of what we can do.426
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And so I think we need to focus on those427
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students, those emerging leaders,428
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get folks early on in their career,429
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get them to realize, hey, health care is an area430
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that I want to be dedicated to.431
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So we have to keep feeding that pipeline of new folks432
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as this industry is going to continue to grow, right?433
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We have new therapies.434
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We have an aging population.435
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We have a growing population.436
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We need folks in this industry437
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and we have to keep feeding that pipeline438
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through all of our initiatives, all of our trainings,439
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right, getting people up that learning curve faster440
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to be able to contribute.441
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And then all moving together on this digital journey442
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as we continue to implement, you know,443
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more and more digitalization across our factories.444
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So if you were to summarize how ISPE's mission445
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and the needs of our membership446
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focus and align at the annual meeting,447
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what would you say to a person thinking about attending?448
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Yeah, I think it's an opportunity to step back449
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and look at the bigger picture of the industry.450
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You know, our mission of sharing pharmaceutical knowledge,451
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you know, building the networks and the connection452
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helps us all advance together in this journey.453
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You know, it's very motivating to see454
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how we can all drive positive change455
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to improve patients' lives.456
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And I think coming to the annual meeting457
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opens your eyes to maybe things you or your company458
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haven't thought of or haven't been focused on459
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and will, you know, make you think,460
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wow, you know, maybe my company461
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should be doing more in that space.462
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And that's just part of, like I said,463
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being there in person, engaging in those conversations464
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and seeing these different topics465
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to be able to maybe challenge yourself466
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and go back and challenge your own company.467
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Hey, I think we could do more.468
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I see people out there doing it.469
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Shouldn't we be doing it as well?470
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You know, when you look at the rapid advancement of science,471
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which is yielding new therapies all the time,472
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you look at the supply chain and the cost pressures,473
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there's probably never been a more pivotal time474
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to connect, learn, and lead.475
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And to summarize this discussion,476
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let me just point out a couple of things.477
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You talked about the focus on digitalization.478
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You focused on the focus on sustainability479
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that we will see at this annual meeting.480
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We talked back and forth about the networking,481
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the social events, the technical content.482
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There's just a whole package that is basically screaming483
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for people to come, excuse me,484
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and contribute and benefit from being there.485
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Yeah, and what I've found is486
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you actually can't get through it all.487
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You know, you get there with these great intentions488
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that I'm going to go to all these sessions489
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and then you get caught up talking to people490
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and you realize, well, I have to go back next year491
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because I didn't get to talk to these three people492
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or get to that session that I wanted to get to.493
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You know, as an attendee, another benefit is494
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several weeks after the conference ends,495
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they make the technical content and presentations496
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available to the attendees so that you can go in497
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and download and have that as a reference498
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to take back to your company.499
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So that's another benefit.500
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And I find myself having to do that501
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because I really wanted to get to that technical session,502
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but I got caught up talking to someone about a hot topic503
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and I just didn't want to leave the conversation.504
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And so you end up downloading the presentation505
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and then maybe even sending that person an email.506
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Hey, I had to download your presentation,507
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I had some questions.508
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And it just, you know, it continues509
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after you leave the meeting, right?510
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It's there, it's available, the people are available to you.511
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There's never enough time.512
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Right, never enough time.513
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Never enough time.514
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I'm waiting for the day that the annual meeting515
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is a full week, right?516
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Is take it the full week.517
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We are getting so large, we have so much to talk about,518
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we have so many topics.519
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You know, what can we do?520
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How can we all maybe just take another day or two521
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and invest a full week of our time together?522
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That is a great vision I have.523
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Well, that brings us to the end of another episode524
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of the ISPE podcast, Shaping the Future of Pharma.525
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A really big thank you to our guest, Scott Billman,526
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for sharing more about what we can look forward to527
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at the
2025 ISPE Annual Meeting and Expo528
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on October
26th through the
29th529
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in Charlotte, North Carolina.530
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Please be sure to subscribe531
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so you don't miss future conversations532
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with the innovators, experts, and change makers533
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driving our industry forward.534
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On behalf of all of us at ISPE, thank you for listening.535
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And we'll see you next time536
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as we continue to explore the ideas, trends, and people537
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shaping the future of pharma.
